Financial Planning or Product Pitch? How to Spot the Difference!
Not all “financial planning” is created equal. In this episode of Something More with Chris Boyd, Chris, Jeff Perry, and Russ Ball unpack how to tell if you are getting real financial advice or just a sales pitch for someone wanting you to buy their product. From free dinner seminars to promises of “guaranteed income” and “market risk elimination,” we explore the red flags, the hidden costs of annuities, and why fiduciary advice matters. Plus, practical tips for checking an advisor’s background and ensuring your financial plan is truly in your best interest. Don’t get sold a product you may regret owning later – be an educator consumer and only work with a fiduciary.
#FinancialPlanning #Fiduciary #InvestorEducation #RetirementPlanning #Annuities
#WealthManagement #MoneyMatters #ChrisBoyd #SomethingMorePodcast #FinancialAdvice
#RiskManagement #SmartInvesting
For more information or to reach TEAM AMR, click the following link:
https://www.wealthenhancement.com/advisor-teams/amr-team
00:00:00,380 --> 00:00:02,460
Well, we've all gotten those seminar mailers.
2
00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,300
You probably got them, too.
3
00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:05,440
I got one recently.
4
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,480
I want to talk about this week.
5
00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,560
Is it financial planning or a product pitch?
6
00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,120
How can you tell the difference?
7
00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,720
Welcome to something more with Chris Boyd.
8
00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,520
Chris Boyd is a certified financial planner, practitioner
9
00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,500
and senior vice president, financial advisor at Wealth
10
00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:24,140
Enhancement Group, one of the nation's largest registered
11
00:00:24,140 --> 00:00:25,180
investment advisors.
12
00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,620
We call it something more because we'd like
13
00:00:27,620 --> 00:00:29,740
to talk not only about those important dollar
14
00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:31,940
and cents issues, but also the quality of
15
00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:34,400
life issues that make the money matters matter.
16
00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,120
Here he is, your fulfillment facilitator, your partner
17
00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,260
in prosperity, advising clients on Cape Cod and
18
00:00:41,260 --> 00:00:42,300
across the country.
19
00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,140
Here's your host, Jay Christopher Boyd.
20
00:00:45,820 --> 00:00:46,880
Welcome, everybody.
21
00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:50,500
I'm Chris Boyd, and I'm here with Russ
22
00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:51,580
Ball and Jeff Perry.
23
00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,900
And we are all of the AMR team
24
00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:55,600
at Wealth Enhancement.
25
00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:56,600
Glad to have you with us.
26
00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,820
And I thought we would do an episode
27
00:00:58,820 --> 00:01:03,420
for a change on these webinar seminar invitations
28
00:01:03,420 --> 00:01:05,100
that I got one in the mail.
29
00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,560
And as I was reviewing it, I was
30
00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,700
thinking, I don't know, you know, this is
31
00:01:13,700 --> 00:01:16,220
not really financial planning.
32
00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:16,900
You know, it's funny.
33
00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:19,860
We've done these kind of events, a dinner
34
00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:20,420
event.
35
00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,000
Sure.
36
00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:24,440
And, you know, I think the challenges and
37
00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,320
sometimes people get these and they really do
38
00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,000
wonder, am I going to be sold products?
39
00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:30,400
Am I going to?
40
00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,680
Is there a big pitch?
41
00:01:31,860 --> 00:01:33,060
Is it a heavy sale?
42
00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:35,300
Like, are they going to twist my arm?
43
00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:35,660
Right.
44
00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,340
Is there a timeshare involved?
45
00:01:37,980 --> 00:01:38,760
Yeah, kind of.
46
00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:38,960
Right.
47
00:01:39,060 --> 00:01:40,520
You know, feels like that.
48
00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,660
So we we do when we do this
49
00:01:42,660 --> 00:01:43,080
kind of stuff.
50
00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,960
We're trying to educate people and draw them
51
00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:49,440
into being interested in whether we could be
52
00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,780
a resource to them.
53
00:01:51,100 --> 00:01:51,380
OK.
54
00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:59,220
However, I came across this this recent flyer,
55
00:01:59,340 --> 00:02:02,860
and it talked about talking about some recent
56
00:02:02,860 --> 00:02:05,880
events and doing some planning, financial planning.
57
00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,840
So I looked at the advisor who was
58
00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,460
giving the financial planning seminar.
59
00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,600
Is that the right word?
60
00:02:13,340 --> 00:02:15,140
Well, I noticed he's not a financial planner.
61
00:02:16,140 --> 00:02:18,060
He's talking about financial planning, but he's an
62
00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:18,740
insurance agent.
63
00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,340
Not the first time we saw this.
64
00:02:22,340 --> 00:02:24,600
So now that's not to say that someone
65
00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,920
who is an insurance agent couldn't possibly actually
66
00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:29,240
do a financial plan.
67
00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,020
But I'd say that's a red flag, right?
68
00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,140
You know, maybe it's not someone who is
69
00:02:35,140 --> 00:02:43,580
truly a fiduciary doing planning as the basis
70
00:02:43,580 --> 00:02:45,660
of, you know, what they might recommend.
71
00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:48,320
So I went through the.
72
00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,340
The materials and started looking at they had
73
00:02:54,340 --> 00:02:57,220
a variety of bullets, free dinner, I saw
74
00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:57,600
that.
75
00:02:57,900 --> 00:02:58,100
Yeah.
76
00:02:58,180 --> 00:02:58,360
Yeah.
77
00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,340
Everyone likes free dinner.
78
00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,560
Is it free?
79
00:03:00,940 --> 00:03:01,140
Yeah.
80
00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,160
Well, anyway.
81
00:03:02,260 --> 00:03:02,600
Yeah.
82
00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,300
But but it really comes down to there
83
00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:06,020
were a couple of things.
84
00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:08,340
And I thought not everything were mentioned in
85
00:03:08,340 --> 00:03:13,060
the the the series of discussions would be.
86
00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,000
Suggest an annuity sale, but there were a
87
00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,580
few things that caught my eye as indicating
88
00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:26,220
this is probably going to result in an
89
00:03:26,220 --> 00:03:28,980
annuity recommendation.
90
00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:30,020
Yeah.
91
00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,340
So on the one hand, talking about taxes,
92
00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:35,620
talking about the big, beautiful bill.
93
00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:38,660
Well, that's probably some good information that's relevant
94
00:03:38,660 --> 00:03:39,460
to understand.
95
00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,720
You know what's changed?
96
00:03:40,820 --> 00:03:41,600
What are the details?
97
00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,020
That's probably useful, right?
98
00:03:44,020 --> 00:03:44,860
Mm hmm.
99
00:03:44,860 --> 00:03:48,160
Might apply to people talking about strategies like
100
00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,000
Roth conversions.
101
00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:51,080
These are these are helpful.
102
00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:55,240
These are they could be good at times.
103
00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:58,000
These can be good techniques and tactics and
104
00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,320
the the way we might want to try
105
00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,660
to navigate our personal tax forecast.
106
00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,240
Right.
107
00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:11,820
One of the topics was about market volatility.
108
00:04:12,980 --> 00:04:17,140
And that catches my eye because I know
109
00:04:17,140 --> 00:04:20,540
one of the hooks that often is used
110
00:04:20,540 --> 00:04:24,000
to talk about the purchase of a annuity
111
00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,280
with a long surrender charge cost.
112
00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,700
Can be stop the losses, have market access,
113
00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,880
be protected without downside risk.
114
00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,360
Now, what do you think?
115
00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:43,540
Sounds good to be true.
116
00:04:43,820 --> 00:04:45,260
It sounds too good to be true.
117
00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,420
And it is now it's not to say
118
00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:49,520
that there aren't products that can provide us
119
00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,480
downside risk mitigation, but it comes at a
120
00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:52,800
cost.
121
00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,460
We don't get full participation in the upside
122
00:04:57,140 --> 00:04:59,900
or there can be high internal costs in
123
00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:00,460
a product.
124
00:05:00,820 --> 00:05:01,340
Right.
125
00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:03,920
So there can be a variety of ways.
126
00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,000
But this often is the hook for maybe
127
00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,700
an equity indexed annuity or some kind of
128
00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:14,000
variable annuity with lifetime guarantees that are an
129
00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,700
income stream.
130
00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:16,160
But I have to stay in the product.
131
00:05:16,540 --> 00:05:17,980
We had an individual in here the other
132
00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:21,000
day had a variable annuity, bought it after
133
00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,300
the market downturn.
134
00:05:22,420 --> 00:05:25,620
Reasonable, you know, of 2008.
135
00:05:25,980 --> 00:05:26,200
Right.
136
00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,120
And understandable, you know, after a big market
137
00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,680
disruption, this might have more appeal to you.
138
00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,000
You know, fortunately, in this instance, it wasn't
139
00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,680
a big part of their wealth.
140
00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,100
So it was a compliment to other things
141
00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:40,560
they did.
142
00:05:41,460 --> 00:05:45,360
But if you're in a position where you're
143
00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,080
drawn into this kind of thing and you
144
00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,820
say, oh, I don't want that, you can
145
00:05:48,820 --> 00:05:51,200
have a variable annuity that has four percent
146
00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,360
embedded costs annually as a drain on performance.
147
00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:00,820
No wonder the guaranteed cost or performance is
148
00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:01,640
going to be better.
149
00:06:03,180 --> 00:06:06,620
You know, it has this artificial account that
150
00:06:06,620 --> 00:06:09,460
will grow by a certain percentage and then
151
00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:12,440
you can take five percent or something, some
152
00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,080
percentage off of that for life.
153
00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,940
Well, you're paying embedded expenses as part of
154
00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:22,160
how you get that feature, which is going
155
00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,820
to be a guaranteed income.
156
00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,380
Right.
157
00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:26,180
And, you know, you end up in that
158
00:06:26,180 --> 00:06:28,700
product for 30 years, paying four percent per
159
00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:29,020
year.
160
00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,800
Or you pay a big fee to get
161
00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,300
out of it.
162
00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,400
Or you pay a big fee to get
163
00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,180
out of it oftentimes.
164
00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:38,960
So whether it's a very and a variable
165
00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,080
product, one that's sold by prospectus, they at
166
00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,820
least disclose to me how much am I
167
00:06:44,820 --> 00:06:47,120
paying for these various features?
168
00:06:48,220 --> 00:06:50,800
And then annuity, it's hard to find, but
169
00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,420
yeah, we can find it.
170
00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:54,500
But it's hard to legally disclose it.
171
00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,480
But you're probably not going to bury it
172
00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,340
in a tissue paper.
173
00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:57,700
Yeah.
174
00:06:57,860 --> 00:06:57,960
Right.
175
00:06:59,340 --> 00:07:04,020
And then for the equity indexed annuity, a
176
00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:06,460
fixed product, an insurance product not sold by
177
00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:10,640
prospectus, not one sold through a broker dealer
178
00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,660
or something that has a, you know, any
179
00:07:13,660 --> 00:07:14,260
sorry.
180
00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,240
FINRA showing my age FINRA oversight or SEC
181
00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:19,800
oversight.
182
00:07:20,420 --> 00:07:23,860
It it's not disclosed that we don't know
183
00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:26,940
what those costs are, as I always say,
184
00:07:27,060 --> 00:07:29,520
if if if one hand, they're disclosing it
185
00:07:29,940 --> 00:07:32,680
and it's pretty high cost and the other
186
00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,000
hand, they're not disclosing it.
187
00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,740
Do you think it's going to be higher
188
00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:36,140
or lower?
189
00:07:36,460 --> 00:07:37,820
You know, I think it's going to be
190
00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:39,840
higher embedded costs for sure.
191
00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:43,640
So anyway, that was one caught my eye.
192
00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,820
Watch out for things like stock market losses
193
00:07:46,820 --> 00:07:52,860
or market, you know, eliminate market risk or
194
00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:53,960
something to that effect.
195
00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,260
That's a that's a indication.
196
00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,240
Yeah, another loss is, you know, another topic
197
00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,200
was about Social Security timing, and that's a
198
00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,680
good planning topic.
199
00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,000
I think one that we all have to
200
00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,520
give thought to and strategize around.
201
00:08:12,380 --> 00:08:15,120
But then there was retirement income.
202
00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:16,800
There it is.
203
00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:17,460
Yeah.
204
00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,360
You want to take that?
205
00:08:20,540 --> 00:08:20,980
No.
206
00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,060
All these things do go together.
207
00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,600
I can when reading the bullet points on
208
00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,400
the invitation to me, this just looks like
209
00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,940
a cut and paste from his from the
210
00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:33,799
presentation plan.
211
00:08:34,059 --> 00:08:34,659
This is it all.
212
00:08:34,740 --> 00:08:36,179
It's all going to lead to if you're
213
00:08:36,179 --> 00:08:38,700
worried about these things and you want some
214
00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:40,620
guaranteed income and you don't want to worry
215
00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:43,200
about market volatility, so forth.
216
00:08:43,580 --> 00:08:43,740
Yeah.
217
00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,260
And if Social Security is not going to
218
00:08:45,260 --> 00:08:49,080
be enough, it might even go away and
219
00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,960
fear based stuff or fear based.
220
00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:51,860
That's a good point.
221
00:08:51,940 --> 00:08:53,720
I hadn't even thought about that as the
222
00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,800
hook there.
223
00:08:54,940 --> 00:08:55,160
Yeah.
224
00:08:55,580 --> 00:08:56,740
Well, I said when to take it.
225
00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:57,460
Is it safe?
226
00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:58,860
Will it be there for your future?
227
00:08:59,520 --> 00:08:59,760
Yeah.
228
00:09:00,060 --> 00:09:01,520
You don't have to worry about it because
229
00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,800
I have something for you.
230
00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,160
And that's a guaranteed stream of income for
231
00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,320
the rest of your life.
232
00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,840
You don't have to worry about it.
233
00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:09,400
The market can do whatever it wants.
234
00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,980
Social Security can do whatever it wants.
235
00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:11,800
Oh, that sounds good.
236
00:09:12,140 --> 00:09:14,060
And we have a we have a plan
237
00:09:14,060 --> 00:09:14,640
for you.
238
00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,620
And this is not to say that an
239
00:09:17,620 --> 00:09:20,880
annuity can't be a useful tool as part
240
00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,540
of your use from time, if it's appropriate.
241
00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:24,160
Yeah.
242
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,060
So I don't want to be like Fisher
243
00:09:28,060 --> 00:09:31,480
saying never, ever, you know, but I kind
244
00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,080
of feel like Fisher a little bit more.
245
00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,680
You know, it's something to be very guarded
246
00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:39,040
about because there are these embedded costs and
247
00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,980
there's a lot of abuse of this.
248
00:09:41,860 --> 00:09:43,600
So how do you know people have gotten
249
00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:43,860
in?
250
00:09:43,860 --> 00:09:46,600
I mean, people have gotten in trouble.
251
00:09:47,020 --> 00:09:49,800
These these types of companies, I don't know
252
00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,820
if this one has, but.
253
00:09:51,940 --> 00:09:53,960
Companies like this have been in the news
254
00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,140
from time to time where they've been reprimanded
255
00:09:56,140 --> 00:09:59,640
for like pushing that line too far to
256
00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,240
being a financial advisor.
257
00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,660
So how do you know if the the
258
00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:07,240
person you're going to work with is is
259
00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,600
reputable, has at least has a good reputation,
260
00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,560
has has been how they've been dealt with
261
00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:18,900
in the past, have have other clients, have
262
00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:22,300
other people complained about whether or not they've
263
00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:24,700
they're doing things ethically and above board.
264
00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,760
So there's no perfect solution to identify that.
265
00:10:30,420 --> 00:10:32,920
But one possibility is this.
266
00:10:33,820 --> 00:10:36,220
You can look up something called broker check.
267
00:10:37,140 --> 00:10:41,760
Now, broker check is a tool put out
268
00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,740
through FINRA for people who are registered as
269
00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,320
either securities licenses or even I think you
270
00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,780
can get someone who has an investment advisory
271
00:10:53,780 --> 00:10:57,200
license to show up under broker check.
272
00:10:57,300 --> 00:10:59,860
But if not, there's another tool.
273
00:11:00,940 --> 00:11:01,980
What is that one called?
274
00:11:02,660 --> 00:11:02,760
Advisor.
275
00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:03,900
Advisor.
276
00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,760
Info.
277
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,220
Advisor.
278
00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,680
Info dot SEC dot gov.
279
00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:08,160
Right.
280
00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:08,900
OK.
281
00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:12,380
And that can give you some insight as
282
00:11:12,380 --> 00:11:17,500
to the the the veracity or the the
283
00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,980
quality of the if there's complaints, at least
284
00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:22,980
doesn't it doesn't guarantee that the person is
285
00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:23,340
ethical.
286
00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,520
It just indicates whether they've had complaints.
287
00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,200
Right.
288
00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:29,760
So that'd be step one.
289
00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,580
Look for something that indicates whether there's a
290
00:11:32,580 --> 00:11:35,520
good resource to say, is this person had
291
00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,560
past problems?
292
00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:39,100
Now, that's one.
293
00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:41,520
Now, number two, you could.
294
00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,820
And of course, you know, not not everything
295
00:11:44,820 --> 00:11:47,580
is definitive, but it's a red flag, you
296
00:11:47,580 --> 00:11:47,960
know what I mean?
297
00:11:48,260 --> 00:11:50,060
If just because someone had a complaint could
298
00:11:50,060 --> 00:11:53,580
was irrational and it was not, you know,
299
00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:55,520
a reasonable complaint or anything.
300
00:11:55,820 --> 00:11:58,160
But but generally, I think that's a.
301
00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,060
It would be a concern to me if
302
00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:02,560
I'm dealing with someone who's had these kind
303
00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:03,520
of issues in the past.
304
00:12:03,620 --> 00:12:03,920
Right.
305
00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,940
So I'd be reluctant to or I'd be
306
00:12:07,940 --> 00:12:08,960
at least on guard.
307
00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:09,440
Right.
308
00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:11,960
Why pick someone who's had these kind of
309
00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,360
issues if you can avoid it?
310
00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,280
So the other thing I would look at
311
00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:24,080
is maybe their CFP CFP experience, their credentials.
312
00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,980
Do they have a CFP?
313
00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:28,760
Are they a CHFC if they're coming out
314
00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,960
of the insurance industry?
315
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,380
Are they if they're coming out of a
316
00:12:32,380 --> 00:12:33,220
CPA world?
317
00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:35,160
Do they have the PFS?
318
00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,660
These are quality credentials that take time to
319
00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:43,760
obtain and do indicate an inclination to do
320
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,420
financial planning as the way they approach.
321
00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,560
It's not an absolute, but again, it's at
322
00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:51,040
least to help.
323
00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,060
And if they're a CFP, for example, do
324
00:12:55,060 --> 00:12:57,040
they have a blemish that the CFP board
325
00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,520
has identified?
326
00:12:58,940 --> 00:13:02,240
You know, an issue, any complaint of something
327
00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:02,780
like that.
328
00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,760
You know, Jeff, you talk about some things
329
00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,360
to ask your advisor all the time.
330
00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:08,880
Yeah.
331
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,640
Three things.
332
00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,500
Three things.
333
00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,220
And if you happen to go to a
334
00:13:12,220 --> 00:13:14,560
dinner like this because you like pork tenderloin,
335
00:13:14,660 --> 00:13:17,560
for example, and you want the free meal,
336
00:13:17,940 --> 00:13:20,380
maybe for your entertainment, if nothing else, raise
337
00:13:20,380 --> 00:13:23,220
your hand and say, I have three questions.
338
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,740
Number one, are you a fiduciary, which means
339
00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:29,980
an ethical and legal standard that you have
340
00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:33,000
to, meaning the person, the advisor or this
341
00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,300
person, the salesman, they have to act in
342
00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:39,340
your best interest, not just what is suitable,
343
00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:41,420
not just it's not horrible.
344
00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:45,180
They have to know you, get to know
345
00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:46,360
you, and they have to act in your
346
00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:46,940
best interest.
347
00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:48,180
So are you a fiduciary?
348
00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,800
This one we're talking about, we're not going
349
00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,160
to give a name, but the answer is
350
00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,920
no, probably.
351
00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:56,600
Right.
352
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,660
They might dance around it and say, no,
353
00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:00,220
I have this license over here or this,
354
00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:00,460
that.
355
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,240
But if they don't give you a straight
356
00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,460
answer, are you a fiduciary?
357
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,680
I would be skeptical.
358
00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,700
Number two, which is really going to apply
359
00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:08,100
here.
360
00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,520
How are you compensated for this financial plan,
361
00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,160
for this advice, for this product?
362
00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,180
And if they can't, I mean, when we
363
00:14:16,180 --> 00:14:19,160
get that question, we tell people during the
364
00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,400
introductory process what our fee is quickly.
365
00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,680
But if somebody can't answer you in 30
366
00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,820
seconds or they answer you and you have
367
00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:29,980
no idea what they said.
368
00:14:30,540 --> 00:14:30,680
Yeah.
369
00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,320
Yeah.
370
00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:33,600
I mean, that's really raise a red flag.
371
00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,260
I mean, someone's likely to answer that saying,
372
00:14:35,380 --> 00:14:36,760
oh, I get paid a commission if if
373
00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,480
you buy a product, that's fine.
374
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,500
How much is your how does that?
375
00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,560
What's that translate to?
376
00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:46,080
Is sometimes helpful to understand because that's right.
377
00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:49,660
How long a term product can affect how
378
00:14:49,660 --> 00:14:50,940
much they get compensated.
379
00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:51,500
That's right.
380
00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:52,640
The details on it.
381
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,480
Well, just make me think that often, you
382
00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,100
know, with these commission based products, it's like
383
00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:01,420
especially if they're marketing themselves as a financial
384
00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:03,020
planner, you think, OK, well, that person is
385
00:15:03,020 --> 00:15:04,140
going to be my point of contact.
386
00:15:04,260 --> 00:15:05,300
I'm going to be talking to this person.
387
00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:07,000
We're going to be reviewing this a lot
388
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,460
of time with these commission based products.
389
00:15:08,460 --> 00:15:09,920
It's like they sell a product.
390
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,120
And that's kind of it.
391
00:15:11,380 --> 00:15:13,320
You know, there's not a lot of there's
392
00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,600
not any plan for additional interaction necessarily.
393
00:15:17,060 --> 00:15:18,360
You know, if there's an issue, maybe call
394
00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,780
them, but maybe we call them and they're
395
00:15:19,780 --> 00:15:20,760
working for a different company.
396
00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:22,120
So that happens a lot.
397
00:15:22,220 --> 00:15:23,220
I mean, we see that a lot, too.
398
00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,600
A lot of turnover in this particular industry.
399
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520
And so are you a fiduciary?
400
00:15:28,620 --> 00:15:29,600
How are you compensated?
401
00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:31,840
And where are my funds held?
402
00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,960
Yeah, the custodian.
403
00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:35,700
And I'm going to add in just a
404
00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:36,960
couple of quick commentaries.
405
00:15:37,060 --> 00:15:38,720
If you're looking for a financial plan.
406
00:15:39,820 --> 00:15:42,060
Work with a team that has a CFP
407
00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:43,700
at the top of the totem pole.
408
00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,280
You know, everybody in the office is in
409
00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,560
a CFP in most most offices.
410
00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,960
But I know you are, Chris, and I.
411
00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:55,460
So work, work with people who have these
412
00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:58,960
credentials, they're not only a demonstration of competence
413
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,580
and experience, but there's also standards that they
414
00:16:02,580 --> 00:16:02,860
are.
415
00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,980
Yeah, there's ethical standards, there's experience, there's education,
416
00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:10,220
ongoing education and so forth.
417
00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:11,480
Yeah, absolutely.
418
00:16:12,020 --> 00:16:14,280
And just just go into these things.
419
00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:16,200
I hate to say it because but it's
420
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,080
the whole world now.
421
00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,400
Go into these things skeptical.
422
00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:20,300
Yeah.
423
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,020
And I think in this kind of scenario
424
00:16:22,020 --> 00:16:23,540
where they're talking about a financial plan, I
425
00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:26,040
think it's reasonable to say, will you provide
426
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160
me of an actual comprehensive financial plan?
427
00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:31,380
What does that look like?
428
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,320
You know, that kind of thing.
429
00:16:32,820 --> 00:16:34,200
Elaborate on what that is.
430
00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:34,560
You know.
431
00:16:34,620 --> 00:16:34,800
Yeah.
432
00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:37,780
But the problem with that, the problem with
433
00:16:37,780 --> 00:16:40,680
that is unless someone is a client of
434
00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,620
a good financial planner, you might not know
435
00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:44,240
what to look for.
436
00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,680
They'll give you a printout and then they'll
437
00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,920
call it a financial plan.
438
00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:50,060
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
439
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,360
So it's and there's nothing wrong with pausing.
440
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,600
You know, things sound really good when you
441
00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,520
have a professional who's, you know, done this
442
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,920
a thousand times and knows all the objections
443
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,160
and has all the answers memorized, all the
444
00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,240
questions that might come up.
445
00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,660
But, you know, if it sounds good, that's
446
00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:09,900
fine.
447
00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,200
But get some advice from a fiduciary, from
448
00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,800
a financial planner who doesn't have who doesn't
449
00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,700
have a horse in that race, so to
450
00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:17,020
speak.
451
00:17:17,339 --> 00:17:18,180
Yeah, yeah.
452
00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,339
And get a second opinion.
453
00:17:20,859 --> 00:17:21,920
You know, it's interesting to me.
454
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,240
I was surprised to find that there's no
455
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,520
insurance equivalent to the broker check.
456
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,580
There's no there's like something by the National
457
00:17:32,580 --> 00:17:34,260
Association of Insurance.
458
00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:39,000
I feel it as commissioners or something, but
459
00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:43,800
there's if there's nothing that actually gives you
460
00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,600
useful insight as to has this person had
461
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,160
complaints?
462
00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:47,900
Yeah.
463
00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,760
Well, doctor, doctor, insured producer or they're not,
464
00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:53,280
you know what I mean?
465
00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:54,480
That's kind of the extent.
466
00:17:54,620 --> 00:17:56,620
It just tells you how long or whatever
467
00:17:56,620 --> 00:17:58,080
and not a whole lot of insight.
468
00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,400
Doctors, lawyers, CFPs.
469
00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,220
I mean, you can check them for their
470
00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:06,300
for their complaint records and their educational history
471
00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:08,340
and how long they've been at each firm.
472
00:18:08,340 --> 00:18:09,700
You know, all the things like you were
473
00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:12,060
mentioning, Russ, you can actually see like how
474
00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:14,420
much experience does this person have and have
475
00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:15,440
they had a rule violation?
476
00:18:15,580 --> 00:18:17,600
Have they had a, you know, a misstep?
477
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,500
And you should, you know, you should check
478
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,240
out your doctors, lawyers and financial planners.
479
00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:25,100
But it's it's concerning when someone is pitching
480
00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,780
you something that it's very difficult to really
481
00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:32,100
understand what the product is in their own
482
00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:32,480
history.
483
00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:35,300
Well, I guess it's one of those instances
484
00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:39,340
buyer beware, you know, just be be alert.
485
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,040
You know, you have you do have to
486
00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,020
be a little bit.
487
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,820
Skeptical, you know, a little bit cautious.
488
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840
It is a big trust factor when you're
489
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,620
working with a financial professional.
490
00:18:51,340 --> 00:18:53,260
We all recognize that.
491
00:18:53,420 --> 00:18:57,220
And, you know, if you're feeling rushed, that's
492
00:18:57,220 --> 00:18:57,940
an indication.
493
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,860
If you feel like you don't fully understand
494
00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:05,060
what's being suggested, how it's being proposed as
495
00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:06,700
solutions, how it works.
496
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,780
Don't just say, well, you seem like you
497
00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:11,700
understand it or I have.
498
00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:15,360
I trust you as much as we love
499
00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:15,520
it.
500
00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,200
We want people to trust us.
501
00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:20,500
We want them to understand what's being recommended
502
00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:21,160
and why.
503
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,460
And I don't want them to feel frustrated
504
00:19:24,460 --> 00:19:28,260
if they buy something or do something, they
505
00:19:28,260 --> 00:19:29,200
go down a path.
506
00:19:29,340 --> 00:19:30,300
They don't understand.
507
00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:32,180
And then it doesn't work the way they
508
00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:32,760
expect it.
509
00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:36,020
You really want to have clear expectations.
510
00:19:36,020 --> 00:19:38,740
And that takes education and that takes time.
511
00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:42,800
So work with a professional who will care
512
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,300
enough to do that process.
513
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,260
Keep you educated along the way.
514
00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:51,660
So and if annuity is right for you,
515
00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,140
your financial advisor, who's a fiduciary, can help
516
00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:55,660
you get one.
517
00:19:55,980 --> 00:19:56,720
There you go.
518
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,380
It's not only sold by salesmen.
519
00:19:59,020 --> 00:20:02,800
Yeah, there are there are actually products that
520
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,840
are non-commissioned products that you can get
521
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,600
access to.
522
00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:08,840
Otherwise, you know, in our case, we can
523
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,300
work with your professional, your insurance professional to
524
00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:16,000
help you find the right product that fits
525
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,520
into your financial plan as well.
526
00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:19,860
So in any case, all right.
527
00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:20,340
Thanks, guys.
528
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,340
This was a good discussion.
529
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,140
My little rant.
530
00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:24,900
If you do have questions, don't hesitate to
531
00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:25,360
reach out.
532
00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:27,900
If you're unsure whether something is a good
533
00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:30,040
fit for you, maybe whether you've been put
534
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,740
in a product and you don't know quite
535
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,060
work with this product, is this a good
536
00:20:34,060 --> 00:20:36,980
fit or just how it fits into the
537
00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:38,520
context of everything else?
538
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000
Do a financial plan.
539
00:20:40,260 --> 00:20:42,180
Let us help you in the context of
540
00:20:42,180 --> 00:20:43,260
how it all fits together.
541
00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:46,400
Until next time, everybody keeps driving for something
542
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,680
more.
543
00:20:48,260 --> 00:20:50,040
Thank you for listening to something more with
544
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:50,760
Chris Boyd.
545
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,200
Call us for help, whether it's for financial
546
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,140
planning or portfolio management insurance concerns or those
547
00:20:57,140 --> 00:20:59,180
quality of life issues that make the money
548
00:20:59,180 --> 00:21:00,280
matters matter.
549
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,640
Whatever's on your mind.
550
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,880
Visit us at something more with Chris Boyd
551
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,600
dot com or call us toll free at
552
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,740
eight six six seven seven one eight nine
553
00:21:09,740 --> 00:21:10,740
zero one.
554
00:21:10,980 --> 00:21:14,160
Or send us your questions to AMR dash
555
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,580
info at Wealth Enhancement dot com.
556
00:21:16,980 --> 00:21:18,720
You're listening to something more with Chris Boyd
557
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,340
Financial Talk Show Wealth Enhancement Advisory Services and
558
00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:23,460
Jay Christopher Boyd provide investment advice on an
559
00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:24,760
individual basis to clients.
560
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,920
Only proper advice depends on a complete analysis
561
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,360
of all facts and circumstances.
562
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,460
The information given on this program is general
563
00:21:30,460 --> 00:21:32,480
financial comments and cannot be relied upon as
564
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,080
pertaining to your specific situation.
565
00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:36,240
Wealth Enhancement Group cannot guarantee that using the
566
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,240
information from this show will generate profits or
567
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,360
ensure freedom from loss.
568
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,720
Listeners should consult their own financial advisors or
569
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,820
conduct their own due diligence before making any
570
00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:44,580
financial decisions.