Compelling Reasons you Need a Financial Advisor
Compelling Reasons You Need a Financial Advisor
This week, Jeff Perry sits in for Chris Boyd and is joined by co-host Russ Ball, both part of the AMR
team at Wealth Enhancement Group. Inspired by Christine Benz’s Morningstar article, “Why I Have a
Financial Planner,” Jeff shares his personal journey from DIY financial planning to becoming a client and eventually a team member of the AMR Team. Together, Jeff and Russ explore the value of getting a second opinion on major financial decisions, the importance of stress-testing your retirement plan, and the different compensation models in the financial advisory world. They also offer practical advice on how to evaluate a financial advisor, including the three essential questions every investor should ask. Whether you are managing your own finances or considering professional guidance, this episode offers insights that could help you uncover blind spots and make more confident decisions about your financial future.
#FinancialPlanning #WealthManagement #JeffPerry #RussBall #ChristineBenz #FinancialPlan
#ChrisBoyd #WealthEnhancementGroup #Preparedness #FamilyFinance #FinancialAdvisor
To read Christine Benz’ article, click the link below:
https://www.morningstar.com/personal-finance/why-i-have-financial-planner
For more information or to reach TEAM AMR, click the following link:
https://www.wealthenhancement.com/s/advisor-teams/amr
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Welcome to something more with Chris Boyd.
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Chris Boyd is a certified financial planner, practitioner,
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and senior vice president financial advisor at Wealth
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Enhancement Group, one of the nation's largest registered
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investment advisors.
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We call it something more because we'd like
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to talk not only about those important dollar
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and cents issues, but also the quality of
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life issues that make the money matters matter.
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Here he is, your fulfillment facilitator, your partner
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in prosperity, advising clients on Cape Cod and
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across the country.
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Here's your host, Jay Christopher Boyd.
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of something
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more with Chris Boyd.
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I'm Jeff Perry.
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I'm sitting in this week for Chris and
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I have with me my co-host Russ
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Ball.
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We're both of the AMR team of Wealth
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Enhancement Group.
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I'm in Florida.
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Russ is on Cape Cod in Massachusetts.
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It was funny because I sent you an
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article that Christine Benz from Morningstar wrote.
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I'm a big fan of hers, by the
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way, and I found out that you're a
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big fan of hers.
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I said, what do you think about this
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subject?
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You said, I just read this.
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We're on the same page with Christine Benz
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and the stuff that she writes.
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Did you read her recent book, How to
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Retire, 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful, and
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Wealthy Retirement?
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I'm about halfway through it.
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It's good.
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It's good.
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It's all over the place because it's a
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compilation of- Separate interviews with different people
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and experts in the field.
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Honestly, I thought it was really good from
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what I've read of it.
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Some of the interviews she has there with
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people we've had on the show before, even
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recently.
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She definitely has a wealth of knowledge and
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really good about sharing that.
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We must subscribe to the same email.
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We must.
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A newsletter or something.
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I think AI figures you out.
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Everything Arthur Brooks writes or says, I click.
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Everything Christine Benz writes or says, I click.
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Jeremy Siegel.
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When you click these things enough, they feed
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them to you.
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Christine Benz is in that category for me
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of something that I think she's...
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I guess the best thing I like about
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her, and she's been on the show before
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too, she's objective.
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I don't feel like she's talking up a
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book.
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I feel like she's giving it as she
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sees it based upon her vast experience with
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Morningstar and the financial planning world.
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That's what I like.
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I hope people think that about us, that
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the show is objective.
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We're not trying to sell any certain product
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or promote any certain service.
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We're just here to give you our best
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thoughts on given issues.
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Sometimes you agree with us, sometimes you don't,
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I'm sure.
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But I try to be objective.
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I know you do, and I know Chris
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has been doing it for 18 years.
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I think that's one of the most important
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things that people should demand of their information.
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So much information out there today, however you
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want to say that, whether it's old media,
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newspapers, if there are any left, the news
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on TV, and then all the cheerleading from
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both political parties, so much of the news
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is biased towards a product, a political agenda,
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a service, whatever it is.
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So I try to demand of the things
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that I'm going to follow that it's not
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biased.
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We definitely are going to have our leanings,
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our opinions on certain things, but definitely using
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this as a more of an educational platform
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and keeping people that listen and clients up
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to date on our thoughts and what's going
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on out in the world.
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So hopefully we're aligned with Christine Benz in
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that regard.
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This article, which we'll get into, so we're
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building her up, but she deserves it.
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But we're building up, and the point is
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we're building her up, meaning we have a
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great deal of respect for her.
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She's been in this industry for decades, financial
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services, financial planning, writing about it, talking about
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it, teaching others about it.
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And the article is why I, meaning Christine
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Benz, has a financial planner.
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So it gets you thinking like, ah, she
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doesn't need a financial planner.
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Right.
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She writes about it all the time.
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She knows more than most anyone about personal
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finance and retirement.
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That's right.
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Why would she need a financial planner?
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But if you think about it, and I'm
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a retired lawyer, if I have a legal
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issue, which I hope I don't have any,
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but if I have a legal issue, I'm
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a fool to represent myself, the old saying.
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If a physician has a medical issue, you
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wouldn't think that they'd, I mean, they might
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know everything about the issue, but they're going
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to go to their doctor.
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They have a doctor and so on.
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We could keep listing professions.
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Why wouldn't a financial advisor turn to, maybe
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not every day, but turn to a financial
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planner advisor about their own plan.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So she wrote this article.
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It's on Morningstar.
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I'll put it in the show notes of
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people.
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It's not very long, but if people want
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to read it and she has five reasons
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why, and there's more, maybe we'll go off
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on tangents.
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It's entirely possible that we do that.
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But the number one reason is also my
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number one reason.
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It's what I did.
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Number one reason is she says we wanted
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a second opinion on a few important decisions.
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I knew Chris Boyd.
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I knew the AMR team, the company at
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that time, but I was handling everything myself.
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And I was thinking of retiring from my
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full-time public service job with the sheriff's
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department, sheriff's office.
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And I had a plan and I was
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like, yeah, I think it's good.
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Me.
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Chris is a community person as a friend,
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if you will.
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And I said to my wife, Lisa, I
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said, let's go in and meet with Chris
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and get a second opinion.
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I think that's a lot of people come
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to us looking for that second opinion.
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And just, you know, you could be as
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confident as possible and you could feel like
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you've read up on it, you know what
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you're doing, but sometimes just getting that seal
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of approval or thoughts from another professional really
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helps give you that sense that, okay, I
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either I am on the right track or
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maybe I was a little bit off.
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I wasn't thinking about this in quite the
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right way.
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They'll help you find your blind spots.
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I think that's very well said.
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Help you find your blind spots because so
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many people who DIY their financial plan are
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about a number.
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You know, they can do math.
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I know what they spend, especially the detailed
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people, which many people are.
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I, I am, I was, I had, I
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had my plan, my numbers.
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I knew about inflation.
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You know, I thought about those things, but
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when I had my meeting with Chris, I
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was like, oh, yeah, you know, that's, that
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makes sense to think about it that way.
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And he, you know, he put a rubber
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stamp on my plan that I'm going to
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be okay.
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But he also gave me a lot of
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insights from his experience that made me think
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like, I should think, think about that.
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I should focus on that.
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I should have a, I should have a
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strategy towards that, or, you know, maybe I'm
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taking too much risk because I've had a
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high risk tolerance.
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So ultimately I became a client and ultimately
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became a member of the team.
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But you're right.
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People getting a second opinion is really important.
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It's just like a doctor, you know, they
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might know that they have a problem, but
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it makes sense not to self-diagnose.
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It's go get a second opinion.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And in Christine Ben's case, she was, she,
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you know, she said she was handling her
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investments herself or her and her husband were
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and currently are, but there were specific questions
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that she had that she thought a financial
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planner could help with.
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And that's, again, that's a lot of people
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come in looking for the answer to one
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specific question or maybe a couple specific questions
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and thinking, oh, well, you know, I have
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X amount in the bank.
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I'd like to get that working for me
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a little bit harder.
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They'll come in and they'll think, well, here's
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my problem.
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Give me a solution.
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And we want to be able to do
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that as fiduciaries to be able to give
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the entire picture, that entire context.
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How does that all fit together?
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It's not just about one problem.
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Here's your one solution.
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Let's see how everything works dynamically and together.
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So yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, one of the biggest benefits
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that I receive personally and that I hope
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I provide to our clients along with the
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rest of the team is to give them
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those projections that have some testing.
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It's not just, you know, a spreadsheet.
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Well, here's how much money you're going to
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have.
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Here's how much money you're going to take.
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But testing a financial plan against things that,
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you know, when you're 60 years old and
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thinking of retiring that you're not quite zoned
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in on the what ifs of life and
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the bigger goals, you know, what do you
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want to do?
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Whether that's travel, whether that's be generous, whether
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that's help family, you know, buy a second
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house, move, relocate, whatever it is, or long
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-term care, you know, negative things that could
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happen, premature death, pension options, when to take
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Social Security, all these things that, you know,
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you know about, you might have thought about
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them or heard about them or read an
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article about them.
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these things that may or may not happen,
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it's super insightful.
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to know that you are making the right
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decision to retire and the type of lifestyle,
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or it can create a pause and say,
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okay, I need to deal with that before
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I, you know, pull the plug on my
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earnings year, right?
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a good reason to have a financial advisor.
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The second reason she mentioned was, we found
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a business model that makes sense for our
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situation.
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under different models.
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that's right.
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assets as the base for, you know, we're
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the investment advisor, we're comprehensive financial planning is
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part of that package, I guess you could
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say.
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we also look at how everything fits together.
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What should we do about buying this house
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down the road?
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So it's kind of a combination.
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an hourly, you know, basis.
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our team does that too, time to time.
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on an hourly, like a routine, like a
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monthly type thing, there are different models out
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there for financial planners.
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There are and so I love to give
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this advice.
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Sorry, you're going to hear it again.
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You've heard it before.
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Whoever you work with in the financial services
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sector, now I'm going to make that really
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broad, because a lot of, you know, there's
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no regulation on the term financial advisor or
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financial planner, like so some people who, in
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my opinion, are not broad based, holistic financial
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planners might use that term, right.
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planner, that's a designation that you have to
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earn.
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But sometimes people involved in insurance industries might
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be presented as a financial advisor.
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financial services world, I want you to ask
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them three questions.
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One is, are you a fiduciary, you mentioned
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that word.
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And that's a legal, moral and ethical standard
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that you as the advisor will work in
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the best interest of the client.
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You don't, so you're not selling them a
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certain product, because you're paid a commission that
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is higher than other products.
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You're not promoting something that you get kickbacks
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for, without disclosing it.
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Your advice is about what is best for
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this client, and not just what might be
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suitable for a client, or something that maybe
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it's the only product that you sell.
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There are financial services companies under certain company
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names that they're only going to recommend things
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that have their title on it, their specific
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brand, if you will.
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So are you a fiduciary is number one.
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Number two is how are you compensated?
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We've just touched on this.
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The key isn't so much, I mean, you
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might prefer a different model as a consumer,
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which is your right to do so.
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about to engage easily explain within a minute
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how you're compensated?
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Because if not, if it's like, oh, it
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depends, and here's a 42 page pamphlet that
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explains it, they should very easily be able
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to explain to you how you're compensated.
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where are your investments, where are your accounts
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held?
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be held at a third party custodian.
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So for example, how do we do it?
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we're going to give you advice, we're going
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to give you a financial plan, we're going
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to meet with you, we're going to get
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to know you.
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you want to bring for us to manage
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for you.
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understand that, but that IRA isn't going to
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be held by us in our office, it's
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going to be held at a third party
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custodian, in our case, Schwab or Fidelity, for
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example.
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So if you get mad at us, if
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you want to fire us, if we ghost
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you, you know, all these things that don't
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happen often, certainly not to us, you can
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just go to Fidelity in this case, if
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that's where the funds are at and say,
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you know, I want to move my funds,
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I don't like this advisor anymore, I'm not
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as happy with their service or whatever the
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situation is.
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So are you a fiduciary?
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How are you compensated?
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And where are my assets being held?
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I think is a foundational three questions if
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you're thinking about working with an advisor or
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if you're working with an advisor and you
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don't know those questions, that's even worse, right?
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If you're working with somebody, you don't know
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the answers, but I think are appropriate to
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ask them and if they can't answer them
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quickly, succinctly and to your satisfaction, you know,
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might be time for a different advisor.
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Totally agree.
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One comment, not to be long-winded, which
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I can be, on this number two business
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model, I like the asset under management approach,
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you pay a certain fee, you know, one
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company out there, one of our competitors say,
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we make more money when you make more
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money, that kind of thing, your assets go
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up, our fee goes up.
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I like that because it doesn't detract you
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from using the full breadth of services of
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a financial advisor.
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If you have, if you agree to an
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hourly format, and it's time for an annual
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review, it's time, you have a question like,
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oh, we find the second house, how does
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it impact my financial plan?
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And these things take time.
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Some consumers will be hesitant to engage in
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seeking advice if they're being charged hourly.
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If you're just paying the fee based upon
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your assets, our clients are encouraged to reach
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out to us and it doesn't cost them
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more if they reach out to us and
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say, I'm thinking about long-term care, can
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we discuss some options?
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Do I still need my life insurance?
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When should I take Social Security?
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And the list is endless and things that
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people ask us.
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there are studies out there that show this
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over time, the amount that can be saved
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by having that advice over time and not
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just a one-off kind of conversation.
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Because the fact is, your life is changing,
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hitting different milestones.
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Your finances are going to be different from
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one year to the next, potentially, especially as
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you get closer to retirement.
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What does that look like when you start
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moving out of a 401k and your target
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date fund or whatever it might be?
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So yeah, having the model that we work
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by, I think it's, I like to think
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of it as having an advisor and retainer
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where you can give them a call, email,
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if decisions come up, if things come up,
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you don't have to worry, oh, well, I
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have to write this check, I have to
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set up this one-hour meeting and hope
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I can get everything in in the one
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hour, that kind of thing.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And then when you get in the context
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of developing a financial plan, which we do
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for our clients, that can be multiple hours
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and people, it's part of our service we
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give to them.
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I encourage them to take advantage of spending
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the time on it, but they're spending the
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time, which is a resource, but they don't
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have to write that extra check, which is
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the model of some other people.
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So number three of the reasons that this
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financial advisor has a financial advisor, it gave
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us an impetus to get and stay organized.
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Anything about that, Russ?
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Well, I think that's huge.
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There's so many things that are vying for
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our attention out in the world, family, your
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job, things outside of work, whatever it might
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be.
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Finances are not always top of mind, and
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if they are, maybe they are for a
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week and then they're not again for another
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couple of years.
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Like tax season.
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Right, exactly.
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Like tax season or you start thinking about
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retirement and you go on a deep dive
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and you do a lot of research, but
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then it kind of fizzles off because the
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fact is there are just a lot of
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things in life that need your attention.
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So the idea of working with a financial
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planner to get organized, especially those advisors that
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start with a financial plan, because Christine Benz
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also referenced that in her article.
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She didn't think she was going to have
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a financial plan when she started, but as
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part of the process, that's what they developed
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with her and they created a framework, a
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model to reference over time.
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It's not like set it and forget it
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type of model.
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Financial plan is dynamic and things are changing
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and as things change, you could use that
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as your organizing guideline for how essentially the
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rest of your life might look from a
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financial lens.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And it's so critical to have a written
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financial plan that you can review for a
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lot of reasons.
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First, you touched on it, but for the
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rest of your life, you have a base
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financial plan, you meet at least once a
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year with your advisor, hopefully more, but at
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least once a year, like if we don't
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hear from you, we're going to harass you
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almost to meet with us and go over
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the plan because we get the opportunity to
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say, has anything changed?
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might be something substantial to your financial plan
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and life events, things change, there's illnesses, there's
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retirement, there's social security, there's the desire to
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give away money or help family and all
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these things by having a plan, an advisor
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who wrote the plan with you and understand
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you and knows you can understand what you
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want to do or what your fears are
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or what concerns or goals and test that,
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let's use the idea of a gift, rather
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than just answer a random question is, can
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I afford to pay for my granddaughter's wedding
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for $40,000?
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good idea, you know, some random answer off
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the cuff, you can put it into the
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model, if spending an extra $40,000 in
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this given year, how does it affect your
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long term projections?
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How does it affect your goals, your cash
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flows?
531
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And it's so easy to do when you
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have that financial plan in place already.
533
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Yeah.
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On the point of getting organized as well,
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I think that's really key.
536
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I use a budgeting app or like a
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money tracking app for my day to day
538
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finances.
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00:20:35,810 --> 00:20:37,990
And I get these ads on social media
540
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telling me, oh, you could save X amount
541
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of dollars by using this app.
542
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And I thought about it, I'm like, I
543
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probably have saved a lot of money just
544
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by getting my finances organized.
545
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By knowing, right?
546
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Yeah, by knowing and by tracking and by
547
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seeing, all right, well, like, maybe I could
548
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cut here, maybe I could cut there, or
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here are things I could do differently.
550
00:20:57,730 --> 00:21:00,730
Same principle applies to working with an advisor.
551
00:21:00,910 --> 00:21:02,530
It's like, once you start getting that ball
552
00:21:02,530 --> 00:21:04,490
in motion, sometimes your finances is something you
553
00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:05,450
don't want to think about.
554
00:21:05,530 --> 00:21:08,010
It's that scary thing in the closet that
555
00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:08,970
you don't want to confront.
556
00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:11,370
But once you start, we see it with
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a lot of clients where they weren't particularly
558
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organized with their finances when they came in.
559
00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:16,950
But when they start, they get their estate
560
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:17,750
plan ready to go.
561
00:21:17,950 --> 00:21:21,310
They get their investments in order.
562
00:21:21,450 --> 00:21:24,290
They have one central place to see what
563
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their net worth is and their assets.
564
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And it helps you create more goals and
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visualize how these things look over time.
566
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So I think that is sort of a
567
00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:37,830
hidden benefit of working with advisors, getting organized
568
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:41,410
and having that really benefit your life moving
569
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forward in terms of your finances.
570
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:44,010
Yeah, exactly.
571
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Number four on the list of why this
572
00:21:47,370 --> 00:21:50,190
financial advisor has a financial advisor is we
573
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love having a succession plan.
574
00:21:55,390 --> 00:21:58,130
Yeah, I mean, a succession plan, and I
575
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think in this sense, she was talking about
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succession plan for her and her husband's wife
577
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and their finances.
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00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:08,870
So if anything were to happen to one
579
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or both of them, it could be cognitive
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decline or some terrible accident, God forbid.
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There's one central place where her loved ones,
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her family members can go and get answers.
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And she mentioned that this planning firm that
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she worked with had a lot of the
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information.
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They weren't necessarily managing her assets, but they
587
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had the information linked to her accounts.
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So they would be the ones who had
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all the answers.
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And having that peace of mind is beneficial.
591
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A lot of clients come meet with us
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and they want to have that succession plan
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in place.
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If something were to happen, oftentimes it's the
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husband that's been managing the finances, could be
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the wife.
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And they're like, well, what's my husband going
598
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to do?
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Or what's my wife going to do when
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I'm not able to do this anymore?
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If I'm not able to manage the finances,
602
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I want to have some kind of plan
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in place for them to know who to
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go to and know who to trust.
605
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Yeah, it's super important.
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And from time to time, every family is
607
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different.
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So this general statement isn't meant to be
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for everyone.
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But from time to time, the client will
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want to bring their family into their financial
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planning sessions.
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Usually the goal isn't to disclose where every
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dollar is and certainly not disclose spending.
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And sometimes they want to, but most of
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the time it's not.
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It's just to explain to the people who
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are going to take care of them if
619
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they need it.
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And for the heirs, this is why this
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is set up.
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This is my intentions.
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This is what I'd like to happen if
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you say the power to your health care
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proxy or executive or successor trustee is doing
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work on our behalf because we need you
627
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to.
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This is the format and this is who
629
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to go to.
630
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And so meeting that meeting the financial planner
631
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as a family can add some great benefit
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to when it's time for that successor to
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step in.
634
00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:08,550
Yeah.
635
00:24:09,090 --> 00:24:10,050
Yeah, absolutely.
636
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The last thing that Christine Benz noted about
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why she has a financial advisor is my
638
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favorite.
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And it's, it's something that I didn't realize
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existed in the financial planning world and that
641
00:24:24,050 --> 00:24:25,410
clients would struggle with this.
642
00:24:25,550 --> 00:24:28,090
But number five is a third party.
643
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The financial advisor can help give us permission
644
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to spend.
645
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And I'm surprised that the number of clients,
646
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the number of people that I serve who
647
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are, their financial plan is solid, right?
648
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Not all of them.
649
00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:47,810
Their financial plan is solid and they are
650
00:24:47,810 --> 00:24:53,870
living a life that is significantly below financially.
651
00:24:54,750 --> 00:24:56,450
And that's just not mean spending.
652
00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:58,090
That could be an emotional one too.
653
00:24:59,130 --> 00:25:00,990
Where they are able to, they worked a
654
00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:02,770
long time, they were diligent savers.
655
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:03,570
They had a budget.
656
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:06,410
They were responsible with their spending.
657
00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:07,730
They made good choices.
658
00:25:08,590 --> 00:25:10,510
They have pensions or they don't, they have
659
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:12,250
real estate or they don't, whatever it is,
660
00:25:12,610 --> 00:25:14,630
their financial plan, they get a good grade.
661
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:16,750
They can spend X amount a year and
662
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they're not.
663
00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:21,590
And then they call and say, is it
664
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:23,330
possible that I could have a new car
665
00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:23,970
this year?
666
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:26,270
You know, and you look at the numbers
667
00:25:26,270 --> 00:25:31,890
and yeah, by three, you know, joking, of
668
00:25:31,890 --> 00:25:35,370
course, but so giving that it's just like
669
00:25:35,370 --> 00:25:37,230
a check, like this is a big thing.
670
00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:39,030
I use the idea of gifts because that
671
00:25:39,030 --> 00:25:41,190
comes up a lot with my clients.
672
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:42,790
Like they're thinking about, they want to help
673
00:25:42,790 --> 00:25:45,610
a grandchild or maybe a child, or maybe
674
00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:47,090
there's a divorce in the family and they
675
00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:49,210
want to help their child who got just
676
00:25:49,210 --> 00:25:51,650
divorced, or maybe there's someone sick.
677
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:52,610
So they're not working.
678
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:55,030
They want to help them substantially for a
679
00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:57,010
period of time, whatever it is, the list
680
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is endless of life things.
681
00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:01,630
Um, but just being able to check, I
682
00:26:01,630 --> 00:26:03,810
alluded to this before, but just being able
683
00:26:03,810 --> 00:26:05,690
to check in and saying, I'm thinking of
684
00:26:05,690 --> 00:26:06,590
doing this.
685
00:26:07,170 --> 00:26:11,350
If I do this, whatever it is, am
686
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:11,830
I okay?
687
00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:14,770
That's pretty valuable.
688
00:26:15,310 --> 00:26:18,150
Not just the financial advice, but the emotional
689
00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:18,890
side of it.
690
00:26:20,050 --> 00:26:20,650
Yeah.
691
00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:24,350
And it's interesting that people like Christine Benz,
692
00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:26,710
you know, and I've heard podcasts recently about
693
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:29,970
this, like real experts in, uh, in this
694
00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:33,930
field, they have trouble switching from saving to,
695
00:26:33,930 --> 00:26:37,190
uh, you know, spending what that money was
696
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:38,190
intended for.
697
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,890
So you're saving for retirement and now you're
698
00:26:40,890 --> 00:26:44,130
retired, but you're not really, you know, living
699
00:26:44,130 --> 00:26:46,330
the lifestyle that you imagined that you would
700
00:26:46,330 --> 00:26:47,750
be because you're fearful.
701
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:50,650
And, uh, it's not always that, but sometimes
702
00:26:50,650 --> 00:26:53,970
it's habit, but other times it's, I'm scared
703
00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:54,730
I'm going to run out.
704
00:26:55,070 --> 00:26:57,350
You know, uh, that's probably the biggest one
705
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:58,230
that we see.
706
00:26:58,850 --> 00:27:02,850
And again, not to belabor the point, but,
707
00:27:03,030 --> 00:27:05,150
uh, having that financial plan, and she mentions
708
00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:06,910
it here as well, is like, you get
709
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:10,270
to see what would happen if the market
710
00:27:10,270 --> 00:27:13,110
dropped, what would happen if taxes went up,
711
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:16,550
if, if, uh, healthcare costs were through the
712
00:27:16,550 --> 00:27:16,830
roof.
713
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:19,930
Um, we can, you know, model those scenarios,
714
00:27:19,930 --> 00:27:23,890
even from a conservative starting point and see
715
00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:25,010
how that would affect things.
716
00:27:25,130 --> 00:27:26,790
And if it has a dramatic effect, okay,
717
00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:28,010
then maybe there are things we need to
718
00:27:28,010 --> 00:27:28,190
do.
719
00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:30,390
If, if not, that is sort of that
720
00:27:30,390 --> 00:27:33,070
permission to be like, okay, like you're, you're
721
00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:33,910
going to be okay.
722
00:27:34,270 --> 00:27:36,410
So let's think about enjoy.
723
00:27:36,550 --> 00:27:37,770
What are the things that you would do
724
00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:39,050
and not just to spend money to spend
725
00:27:39,050 --> 00:27:40,510
money, but what are the things you would
726
00:27:40,510 --> 00:27:42,810
do to enjoy the life that you've made
727
00:27:42,810 --> 00:27:43,850
for yourself in retirement?
728
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:45,350
Sometimes that's charitable giving.
729
00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:47,570
Sometimes that's, you know, going on the extra
730
00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:47,950
trip.
731
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:50,350
So, you know, you name it for every
732
00:27:50,350 --> 00:27:51,450
family, it's gonna be something different.
733
00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:56,050
But, uh, one, one, uh, anecdote I'll add
734
00:27:56,050 --> 00:27:58,490
is, uh, some, so when you guys had
735
00:27:58,490 --> 00:28:01,190
recently on the show, it was, um, uh,
736
00:28:01,270 --> 00:28:02,110
is it Gilbert?
737
00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:04,710
Uh, something, something Fritz.
738
00:28:05,030 --> 00:28:05,470
Yeah.
739
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:06,150
Fritz Gilbert.
740
00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:06,390
Yep.
741
00:28:06,530 --> 00:28:09,530
It's got a retirement manifesto.
742
00:28:09,650 --> 00:28:10,090
That's right.
743
00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:11,890
So I was listening to a podcast with
744
00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:16,110
him recently, and he was saying, uh, rather
745
00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:20,230
than reinvesting his RMDs, uh, or what's left
746
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:21,570
of his RMDs after he spent what he
747
00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:23,410
wanted to spend, he kind of uses that
748
00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:24,510
as the benchmark.
749
00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:26,790
Like I need to use up my RMD
750
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:27,910
to be able to spend the money.
751
00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:29,910
So whether it be, and in his case,
752
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:31,610
he was saying the remainder he would give
753
00:28:31,610 --> 00:28:33,710
to a charity or he's, you know, he's
754
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:36,750
running this, um, organization himself, him and his
755
00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:38,230
wife, uh, for dogs.
756
00:28:38,410 --> 00:28:41,370
So, uh, there are a whole bevy of
757
00:28:41,370 --> 00:28:42,950
things that you can do with that money,
758
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:45,790
but being able to spend what you've worked
759
00:28:45,790 --> 00:28:48,610
so hard for, that's, that's the goal, right?
760
00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:50,370
That when you're thinking about retirement, you're thinking,
761
00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:51,470
well, I'm going to do this and that
762
00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:52,950
and the other thing, but then the fear
763
00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:54,790
steps in and the habit of, you know,
764
00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:56,190
you're used to saving, how am I going
765
00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:57,270
to be pulling from that?
766
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:59,170
It's a hard, uh, It is a hard
767
00:28:59,170 --> 00:28:59,570
transition.
768
00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:03,290
Like you've programmed yourself for decades to save,
769
00:29:03,370 --> 00:29:07,130
save, save, and, uh, you know, limit your
770
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:08,290
spending some level.
771
00:29:08,970 --> 00:29:13,790
Um, so I think it's super valuable, um,
772
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:16,210
to have that plan, to test that plan
773
00:29:16,210 --> 00:29:19,250
and to get that second opinion or whatever,
774
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:22,210
to, to ask those questions and working with
775
00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:25,310
an advisor, you have a trusted fiduciary to
776
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:28,270
use the word again on your team, just
777
00:29:28,270 --> 00:29:30,630
like you should have a good tax person
778
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:32,690
and a good lawyer for your estate planning,
779
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:35,090
to have a team of professionals around you
780
00:29:35,090 --> 00:29:37,250
and turn to them in these certain times
781
00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:40,170
and check in with them regularly to make
782
00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:42,790
sure that you're, uh, you know, checking those
783
00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:44,990
boxes and you're prepared for things, but also
784
00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:47,810
that you're living the life that you're able
785
00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:48,410
to live.
786
00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:50,790
And, uh, I don't know how you put
787
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:51,450
a price on that.
788
00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:53,370
I think it's invaluable for that peace of
789
00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:56,070
mind and that certainty that you're going to
790
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:57,810
be okay and be able to not only
791
00:29:57,810 --> 00:30:00,970
meet your obligations, but live the life that
792
00:30:00,970 --> 00:30:01,410
you've earned.
793
00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:02,830
Yep.
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00:30:03,690 --> 00:30:05,670
Well, if any of these things, uh, hit
795
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:07,810
home with you, if you're wondering if you
796
00:30:07,810 --> 00:30:10,070
should get a second opinion, or if you're
797
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:13,470
thinking about, should I have a plan?
798
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:15,030
The answer is yes.
799
00:30:15,490 --> 00:30:17,010
Uh, we're here to help.
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We're part of the AMR team of wealth
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enhancement, and we have an office in Hyannis.
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Uh, we help clients all over the country.
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So if we can help you out, please
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don't hesitate to reach out.
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our podcasts until next week.
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Chris Boyd, call us for help, whether it's
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for financial planning or portfolio management insurance concerns,
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or those quality of life issues that make
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the money matters matter, whatever's on your mind,
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or call us at 866-771-8901, or
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send us your questions to amr-info at
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You're listening to something more with Chris Boyd,
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financial talk show, wealth enhancement, advisory services, and
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individual basis to clients.
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Only proper advice depends on a complete analysis
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of all facts and circumstances.
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The information given on this program is general
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financial comments and cannot be relied upon as
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pertaining to your specific situation.
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Wealth Enhancement Group cannot guarantee that using the
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information from this show will generate profits or
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ensure freedom from loss.
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Listeners should consult their own financial advisors or
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conduct their own due diligence before making any
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financial decisions.